Aquirers Fund founder Tobias Carlisle said the market was underestimating the impact of COVID-19 and made a case for value investing and his preferred shorts in a March 2020 episode, recorded on Feb. 26.
Carlisle said he could see “the market get hammered again” later in the year and that unlike other public health scares, COVID-19 had an impact on supply chains.
“I think it’s very likely that we see material weakness all year long due to coronavirus,” he said at the time.
James Fok joins the podcast to discuss his book ‘Financial Cold War: A View of Sino-US Relations from the Financial Markets’. In Fok’s view, the fates of China and the U.S. are highly intertwined, and neither country’s leaders want the conflict to escalate — but that could easily change.
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How the financial cold war is defined, some of the ways it is already impacting society and economics, and the risks of greater conflicts (3:06);
Is military conflict between the U.S. and China inevitable? (4:49);
The fates of the two countries are highly intertwined but the U.S. dollar and global monetary system have exacerbated imbalances (7:46);
Why the belief that the USD’s global role is good for the U.S. is a fallacy (11:02);
The world needs to become less USD-denominated if the financial Cold War is going to be resolved. There is precedence for this (18:00);
Background on the guest (30:00);
The state of China’s economy and where it’s headed (33:44);
China’s economic problems are clear for all to see, but the social implications are probably being significantly underestimated (36:49).
Barry Knapp of Ironsides Macroeconomics rejoins the podcast to discuss his 2022 outlook for the economy and markets. He is broadly optimistic on the former, but less enthusiastic about the latter — at least in the first half of the year — with strong possibility of ‘uncertainty shocks,’ especially around Fed events (sound familiar?) There is also some interesting discussion around interest rates, inflation, and China, among others.
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A lot has changed in a year, though probably nothing quite as much as the inflation outlook (3:04);
Markets and economics should diverge significantly in the first half of the year (4:51);
The Federal Reserve is due to embark on a rate-tightening cycle, which should be negative for markets but will be net-neutral, or perhaps even positive for the economy (8:00);
Inflation is running hot, but the guest has done some deep research on similar historical epochs and finds the concern less pressing than most (17:20);
The key level for inflation is 4% — if the CPI exceeds it consistently there could be trouble. Link to the Fed paper referenced here (21:33);
Still, there is a strong possibility for ‘uncertainty shocks’ in the first half of the year (29:52);
Finally, China: Reasons to be bearish. Very bearish (34:58).