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Risks Point to Downside in 2024 (Szn 5, Epsd 29)

With Kyrill Asatur, Centerfin

This podcast episode was recorded Dec. 20, 2023 and made available exclusively — without ads or announcements — for premium subscribers that same day. This is just one of the benefits of becoming a premium subscriber. The others are detailed on our Supercast or Substack pages.

Kyrill Asatur, co-founder and CEO of Centerfin, re-joins the podcast to discuss his views going into 2024 and the likelihood there won’t be a ‘soft landing’ for the economy next year.

Content Highlights

  • Consensus estimates for 2024 are going to be wrong, just like they were for this year and every year before it (2:12);
  • Coming in to this year the banking sector was a concern, though as it turned out for the wrong reasons (4:39);
  • The catalyst for the reversal this fall and the new, dovish Fed (7:26);
  • The contrarian call is that they’re won’t be a soft landing — or a stock market crash (11:44);
  • Possible explanation for the ‘Fed pivot’ (16:48);
  • How the guest is allocating assets going into 2024 (23:56);
  • Artificial Intelligence (AI) discussion (29:02).

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Short-Term Treasuries: The Place to Be (Szn 5, Episode 28)

Feat Jared Dillian, Daily Dirt Nap

This podcast episode was recorded Nov. 29, 2023 and made available to premium subscribers the following day. To become a premium subscriber, sign up through our Substack or Supercast.

Jared Dillian of the Daily Dirt Nap joins the podcast to discuss his bullish views on short-term Treasuries and less optimistic outlook for the US economy. He also discusses his work as an author and views on disparate issues facing society. 

Note: The podcast episode contains some mature language.

Content Highlights

  • The ‘soft landing’ scenario appears to have become the base case. Dillian doesn’t quite buy that (1:37);
  • To be bullish on short-term Treasuries one needs to believe the Fed is going to cut rates. That is imminent (4:26);
  • Addressing the inflation bogeyman. The risk has maybe receded over the short term, but what about a return over the medium term? There is historical precedent for this from the last time inflation was a serious force in the US… (9:37);
  • Background on the guest and a broad discussion of his time at Lehman Brothers (including its downfall), working on Wall Street, career paths, education, and more…(15:48)

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Opportunities in Emerging, Frontier Markets (Szn 5, Episode 27)

Featuring Kevin T. Carter, EMQQ Global

Kevin T. Carter, founder and chief investment officer of EMQQ Global, joins the podcast to discuss opportunities in emerging and frontier market stocks. His first lesson: don’t bother with the indexes. The real opportunities are to be found in individual stocks.

Content Highlights

  • The first issue with emerging market investing is the index. These do not accurately reflect the real opportunities (1:19);
  • Individual stocks, especially of technology companies, have performed far better than the underlying index (6:25);
  • There are three mega-trends that point to emerging markets growth over the long term (8:03);
  • South America’s E-commerce giant is not in any EM index. Neither is Brazilian digital bank Nu Holdings (15:14);
  • A broad discussion of China, where things are not always as they appear in the western media… (19:22);
  • Right now all eyes are on India. The story there is still in the early innings, but unfortunately options are limited for investors limited to US exchanges… (42:13);
  • Other markets in South Asia also offer compelling opportunities. Especially Bangladesh (48:58).

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