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Optimism on Wall Street: A Contrarian Indicator, though not the Mother of All Contrarian Indicators

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What will 2024 bring? Last year at this time we were all preparing for imminent recession. This year things are far more optimistic. The venerable Wall Street Journal yesterday reported how “optimism abounds on Wall Street.” That’s the kind of thing that gives The Contrarian cause for concern.

It’s not the mother of all contrarian indicators though. Yeah, Wall Street analysts have horrific records at predicting, well, anything. But the mother of all contrarian indicators, if you must know, is the mother in law indicator.

It doesn’t have to be your mother in law (parents, taxi drivers, baristas, high school classmates, cousins, gym buddies, etc. all work), the key is for it to come from somebody who is a complete novice at investing and has zero clue about stocks or bonds — or for that matter even knows the difference between the two (or that there is a difference). When these people come out of the woodwork asking for “stock tips” then the bull market is truly on its very last legs.

We aren’t there yet. We could get there in a couple of months if the buying continues. But then, why should it? The prevailing reason provided is that the Federal Reserve is about to cut interest rates. While this would indeed provide a short-term boost to stocks, the bigger gains would likely come in the bond market.

And that’s assuming the Fed can cut rates to begin with. Remember that the Fed needs the annualized CPI to be at 2% or lower before it can declare victory over inflation. At its current level of 3.1%, it’s still a ways off. Until you get to 2% (or ideally below), the Fed runs the very real risk of igniting inflation anew — and destroying whatever is left of its credibility with it. Remember, too that Fed rate cuts are intended as economic stimulus. One could argue that they should be reserved only used in such instances. Judging by labor markets and consumer behavior, the economy is a long way from needing any kind of stimulus.

So be careful what you wish for. Yes, the economy still looks fine and that should be a positive where corporate earnings are concerned. But without a clear turn for the worse in the economy, the Fed runs a very real risk of causing all kinds of problems should it still decide to cut rates. Not just inflation, but very real concerns with the Fed’s credibility.

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Opportunities in Emerging, Frontier Markets (Szn 5, Episode 27)

Featuring Kevin T. Carter, EMQQ Global

Kevin T. Carter, founder and chief investment officer of EMQQ Global, joins the podcast to discuss opportunities in emerging and frontier market stocks. His first lesson: don’t bother with the indexes. The real opportunities are to be found in individual stocks.

Content Highlights

  • The first issue with emerging market investing is the index. These do not accurately reflect the real opportunities (1:19);
  • Individual stocks, especially of technology companies, have performed far better than the underlying index (6:25);
  • There are three mega-trends that point to emerging markets growth over the long term (8:03);
  • South America’s E-commerce giant is not in any EM index. Neither is Brazilian digital bank Nu Holdings (15:14);
  • A broad discussion of China, where things are not always as they appear in the western media… (19:22);
  • Right now all eyes are on India. The story there is still in the early innings, but unfortunately options are limited for investors limited to US exchanges… (42:13);
  • Other markets in South Asia also offer compelling opportunities. Especially Bangladesh (48:58).

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Stocks, Bonds to Rally in Q4: David Hunter (Szn 5, Episode 25)

A short actionable highlights reel from this podcast was released to premium subscribers last Thursday, Oct. 12 — the same day it was recorded. The full episode and transcript were made available to premium subscribers the following day. Become a premium subscriber by signing up on our Substack or Supercast.

David Hunter of Contrarian Macro Advisors rejoins the podcast to discuss his views on the economy, Fed, stocks, and bonds.

Not investment advice.

Content Highlights

  • Views on the bond market (1:31);
  • The Federal Reserve will likely pause again at its next meeting, on Nov. 1 (6:41);
  • Views on stocks (11:30);
  • Once consensus emerges that the Fed is ‘done’ it will remove a major wall of worry and headwind the magnitude of which few are anticipating… (16:14);
  • Targets for S&P 500, Nasdaq, Dow Industrials, 10-year yields… (21:21);
  • How the ‘bust’ scenario will play out (27:02),

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