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Season 3, Episode 26: David Hunter on the Coming Stock Market Bust

David Hunter of Contrarian Macro Advisors rejoins the podcast to provide updates on his prediction that stock markets are in the final stage of a parabolic melt-up that will be followed by a global bust.

Hunter’s initial targets for the S&P 500, Dow Industrials, and other U.S. stock market indexes have been breached, causing him to provide new, even more bullish, targets.

The bust will likely start with a ‘second-quarter swoon’ next year, caused by the Federal Reserve overreacting to inflation. The deflationary meltdown will then cause another overreaction by central banks and government fiscal policies.

Not intended as investment advice.

Content Highlights

  • Hunter’s new targets on the S&P, Dow, Nasdaq, and Russell 2000 (2:50);

  • Oil and oil stocks have peaked for this cycle (6:50);

  • The bust should happen about mid-way through 2022 and result in oil prices back in the mid-$20s range (8:25);

  • The cycle will end because the Federal Reserve tightens interest rates due to inflationary pressures (10:28);
  • Central banks around the world are withdrawing quantitative easing and some have even started to adjust interest rates higher. This will affect things and force the Fed’s hand. Resolution of supply chain issues would increase the pressure (15:54);

  • China will definitely play a major role in the bust, though Evergrande is probably just the tip of the iceberg (19:27);
  • What happens after the bust is an unprecedented flow of liquidity. Yes, even more than COVID. There will be bank failures, though more in Europe and Asia than the U.S. (21:17);

  • Central banks only have one tool to combat this, which is quantitative easing. They will be matched by fiscal stimulus. It will be “March of 2020 on steroids, basically. Multiple steroids” (26:07).
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Season 3, Episode 23: The Long Term Bull Case for Oil (Updated)

With Todd Sullivan, ValuePlays.com

(Updates with third video below).

Todd Sullivan of ValuePlays.com joins the podcast to discuss his long term bullish views on oil.

The guest also provides his favorite stocks — all portfolio holdings of his — for investors to take advantage of this trend.

Content Highlights

  • Big picture elements of supply, demand, and infrastructure that are driving the long term bull case for oil (2:50);

  • What about the potential for an economic slowdown in the U.S. and more importantly China? How might that impact things? (7:39);

  • Background on the guest and how he turned his passion as a blogger and investor into his current position (11:17);
  • The three energy names he really likes right now (18:51);
  • Energy has been unpopular for some time and people are under the illusion that gas and oil are going away. “Nothing could be further from the truth.” (25:28);

  • Why transport companies are more of a pure-play on energy prices than drillers (29:30);

  • $100/barrel oil is a “realistic scenario” and prices could stay high after that as the macro outlook remains constructive (37:17);

  • The bullish outlook for the cannabis industry in the U.S. — this will be the topic of a future episode (42:49).
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Contrarian Calls, Revisited: David Neuhauser’s Bullish Call on Vista Oil

Presenting at the second Contrarian Investor Virtual Conference on June 3, 2020, David Neuhauser of Livermore Partners made the bullish case for Vista Oil (VIST).

Vista, “the leading pure play company in the Vaca Muerta basin,” interested Neuhauser because of its strong leadership and management, the large number of undeveloped locations in the basin and “an interesting dynamic where they have credential wells and their shale wells.” The shale wells have produced “beyond expectations,” and with oil prices rebounding there was “substantial valuethe ” in the company, he said. VIST was trading around $3 at the time of Neuhauser’s presentation.

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