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Collision Course: US Economy and the Fed Wrecking Ball

A short synopsis of the Fed’s determination to ‘break things’ 

The following is an amended version of the Oct. 7 Daily Contrarian. This briefing and accompanying podcast are released to premium subscribers each market day morning by 0700. To subscribe, visit our Substack.

Non-farm payrolls this morning came in at 263,000, ahead of economist forecasts of 250,000. The unemployment rate dropped to 3.5% (it was expected to hold at 3.7%). The headline number was a decrease from the 315,000 figure seen last month and constitutes the lowest reading of the year. That was little consolation for investors who took the opportunity to sell stocks again.

Here the formula was the same it’s been: investors were rooting for a soft number signifying a slowing labor market, simply because it would bring more hope of a quicker Fed pivot away from interest rate hikes.

‘Breaking Things’

The NFP report demonstrates that in the US economy at least, nothing really appears broken. Consumers have been able to afford the higher prices for goods and services — mainly because they’re still employed and even still getting raises. That’s a problem because Fed officials are on record stating they are determined to tame inflation even if it means ‘breaking something’ in the economy.

Of course, talk is cheap. Each time investors bid up stocks they have essentially been calculating that if there is a real pain point in the economy, the Fed will probably see it as reason enough to pivot and flood the market with liquidity again.

Miley Cyrus 'Wrecking Ball' feat Jerome Powell. Meme by author
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Perhaps this calculation will even be right. But the ‘pain point,’ wherever it ends up occurring, is likely to cause a blast radius with second- and third-order effects. The damage will likely be widespread, perhaps even in areas none of us can envision right now. Unwinds of this magnitude are very rarely painless.

Remember too that it takes up to a year for Fed rate hikes to work their way through the economy. This tightening cycle started in March. That puts us seven months in. Potentially still months away from when things even start breaking.

That all makes for a guarded market. Sure, there’s a chance investors could throw caution to the wind and bid up assets into year-end. But with all this uncertainty still out there, it’s difficult to make the case for taking risks. Markets hate uncertainty more than they hate bad news.

For what it’s worth, none of this is investment advice. Do your own research, make your own decisions.

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Bullish on Oil, Pipeline Stocks, Long-Term Bullish on Cannabis: Todd Sullivan (Szn 4, Ep 27)

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Todd Sullivan of ValuePlays.com rejoins the podcast to discuss oil markets and the investment case for cannabis.

Sullivan’s call for $100 oil last year turned out to be prescient. Oil prices have retreated from their peak, but that will be short-lived, he says…

(This episode was recorded Sept. 22, before the recent rebound in oil prices. Premium subscribers get an early actionable highlight clip of the podcast along with earlier release of the full episode — and a host of other benefits. More on our Substack or Supercast.)

Content Highlights

  • Fears of ‘demand destruction’ have led to the decline in oil prices, but risks are tilted toward prices moving higher again. Production is not coming back (3:48);
  • How much of a concern is a slowing Chinese economy when it comes to oil prices? (10:14);
  • What about stocks? Sullivan continues to like pipeline companies… (16:00);
  • The investment case for cannabis: Overview (27:03);
  • The only thing that will unleash capital on the cannabis industry is decriminalization (31:46);
  • What to look for if you are looking to buy and hold cannabis stocks and two of the guest’s favorites (34:30).

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Bank of England Bail-Out and the Return of Systemic Risk

The following is an amended version of the Sept. 29 Daily Contrarian. This briefing and accompanying podcast are released to premium subscribers each market day morning by 0700. To subscribe, visit our Substack.

Stocks rallied yesterday after the Bank of England said it would intervene in bond markets. The central bank will buy £65 billion worth of long-dated gilts at an “urgent pace” and postpone plans for quantitative tightening. The Wall Street Journal has as good piece that gets into the quandary the BOE was in. Apparently pensions were on the hook for holding derivatives tied to interest rates.

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Pensions, Derivatives, Systemic Risk

The BOE move was cheered by markets but it does raise questions. If pensions are behaving like hedge funds by betting large amounts of money on esoteric (and illiquid) interest rate swaps, then that would certainly introduce a level of systemic risk to the system.

If all that sounds familiar, it’s because it’s exactly what almost brought down the whole financial system in 2008. Except then it was banks trading these things, not pensions. (Okay, strictly speaking they were different instruments. But whatever, they were still derivatives. And yes, comparisons to 2008 are cheap AF. Still, this looks like an obvious similarity). They say regulators are always guilty of fighting the last war. Well, bank balance sheets are pretty clean these days. But pensions? Does anybody know what they’re even holding? And who are the counterparties?

The derivatives in question appear to be liability-driven investments, or LDIs. The size of this market? About $1.5 trillion (not a typo). This raises the very obvious question of what other pension funds in what parts of the world are trading these things.

We’ve cautioned for some time that once the whole market starts rolling over it could unearth problems that nobody had been anticipating. This is typical of market shifts of this size. Well here we go. So nice little bounce yesterday. But it would be pretty naive to think this issue is resolved and we can live happily ever after.

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