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Prepare for a ‘Long Slog’ in Stock Markets as Fed Hikes Continue: Bob Elliott (Szn 4, Ep. 31)

Published November 9, 2022

Bob Elliott, chief investment officer of Unlimited Funds, joins the podcast to discuss his views on the Federal Reserve, inflation, the midterm elections, and why stocks have entered a long ‘slog’ for the foreseeable future.

Content Highlights

  • Investors have been conditioned for recessions to feature a fast decline in equity markets followed by a rapid recovery. This time around those dynamics are different (3:44);
  • There is no chance of a ‘Fed pivot’ coming anytime soon (7:58);
  • What about infighting at the Fed and within the FOMC? (11:03);
  • Yes, you need unemployment to increase for there to be any progress with inflation. Higher prices are no longer due to supply chain issues (13:57);
  • The Fed will raise either 50bps or 75bps at its next meeting and rates could easily go up to 6% (21:22);
  • Background on the guest and his ETF, the Unlimited HFND Multi Strategy Return Tracker ETF. Stock ticker: HFND (26:19);
  • The growing disconnect between hedge fund positioning and retail investors: Hedge funds are short bonds, long commodities, bullish gold, and are sitting on a bunch of cash… (36:21);
  • The Fed’s target rate for inflation is 2%, but that could change. That would bring a myriad of issues… (38:24);
  • It’s hard to get bullish about longterm bonds: right now and for the foreseeable future (40:54);
  • Investors continue to look for reasons that the economy is slowing and the Fed needs to reverse course. There is virtually no evidence of this happening (42:44);
  • The midterm elections are likely to lead to a split government. This brings tail risks that few people are talking about (44:50).

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The Fed’s Inflation Battle Is Doomed to Fail: Fabian Wintersberger (Szn 4, Ep. 28)

Published October 12, 2022

Fabian Wintersberger joins the podcast to discuss his views on the economy, inflation, and Fed policy.

Content Highlights

  • The Fed will not succeed at bringing inflation down to 2%. There will be no soft-landing for the economy (2:48);
  • Interest rate hikes will proceed until something breaks in the real economy, forcing the Fed to reverse course (5:04);
  • Bond yields: We haven’t seen the highs yet (8:16);
  • Background on the guest (14:10);
  • The situation in Europe. Central banks have no choice but to follow the Fed higher (16:38);
  • The situation in Wintersberger’s native Austria, which faces an unprecedented winter with dramatically higher energy costs (18:55);
  • Austria has historical ties to Russia, including in its banking sector, where one institution still has business in the country… (23:27).

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Collision Course: US Economy and the Fed Wrecking Ball

Published October 7, 2022

A short synopsis of the Fed’s determination to ‘break things’ 

The following is an amended version of the Oct. 7 Daily Contrarian. This briefing and accompanying podcast are released to premium subscribers each market day morning by 0700. To subscribe, visit our Substack.

Non-farm payrolls this morning came in at 263,000, ahead of economist forecasts of 250,000. The unemployment rate dropped to 3.5% (it was expected to hold at 3.7%). The headline number was a decrease from the 315,000 figure seen last month and constitutes the lowest reading of the year. That was little consolation for investors who took the opportunity to sell stocks again.

Here the formula was the same it’s been: investors were rooting for a soft number signifying a slowing labor market, simply because it would bring more hope of a quicker Fed pivot away from interest rate hikes.

‘Breaking Things’

The NFP report demonstrates that in the US economy at least, nothing really appears broken. Consumers have been able to afford the higher prices for goods and services — mainly because they’re still employed and even still getting raises. That’s a problem because Fed officials are on record stating they are determined to tame inflation even if it means ‘breaking something’ in the economy.

Of course, talk is cheap. Each time investors bid up stocks they have essentially been calculating that if there is a real pain point in the economy, the Fed will probably see it as reason enough to pivot and flood the market with liquidity again.

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Perhaps this calculation will even be right. But the ‘pain point,’ wherever it ends up occurring, is likely to cause a blast radius with second- and third-order effects. The damage will likely be widespread, perhaps even in areas none of us can envision right now. Unwinds of this magnitude are very rarely painless.

Remember too that it takes up to a year for Fed rate hikes to work their way through the economy. This tightening cycle started in March. That puts us seven months in. Potentially still months away from when things even start breaking.

That all makes for a guarded market. Sure, there’s a chance investors could throw caution to the wind and bid up assets into year-end. But with all this uncertainty still out there, it’s difficult to make the case for taking risks. Markets hate uncertainty more than they hate bad news.

For what it’s worth, none of this is investment advice. Do your own research, make your own decisions.

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